Oct. 25, 2026

VBB 395 Lauren Florek: What Heartbreak Can Reveal!

VBB 395 Lauren Florek: What Heartbreak Can Reveal!
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VBB 395 Lauren Florek: What Heartbreak Can Reveal!

Lauren Florek, author of Making Lemonade, shares how painful experiences like breakups can become powerful tools for self-discovery and transformation, rather than endless cycles of suffering.

Key Takeaways

  • Heartbreak and painful life experiences can be transformed into valuable tools for self-discovery and personal growth rather than endless cycles of suffering.
  • As Dr. Wayne Dyer noted, pain is an inevitable part of the human experience, but suffering is ultimately a choice based on what we decide to carry forward.
  • Self-betrayal often occurs when we edit, omit, or hide pieces of ourselves—such as our loudness, intelligence, or ambition—to remain palatable and keep the peace in relationships or professional settings.
  • Your body acts as an internal compass; listening to physical reactions like an ache in the heart or a knot in the stomach can reveal where your life and values are out of alignment.
  • Making independent choices that honor your true self does not require an elaborate explanation or justification to others.

Lauren Florek knows heartbreak intimately, but also repeatedly. The title of her first book, Making Lemonade: A Bittersweet and Brutally Honest Guide to Heartbreak, Divorce, and Starting Over, captures the idea of finding something of value even when relationships turn sour. But this conversation focuses less on the heartbreak of love lost and more on resilience, reclaiming your voice, and moving beyond cycles of pain and self-betrayal into personal growth and self-empowerment.

Lauren’s stories share hard-won wisdom, meant to encourage anyone open to transforming pain or heartbreak into opportunity, or reclaiming their truest self. On the topic of pain, Lauren echoes the words of Dr. Wayne Dyer, who once said, "Pain is inevitable, but suffering is a choice.” It’s the wisdom of consciously deciding what we choose to carry forward from heartbreak or loss. Can a breakup become a powerful tool for self-discovery and transformation, rather than endless cycles of suffering? Tune in and let Lauren Florek share how.

Frequently Asked Questions

Who is Lauren Florek?

Lauren Florek is an author, coach, speaker, student of the human experience, and founder of the New Mindset Foundation who writes about heartbreak, resilience, and starting over.

What is the book Making Lemonade by Lauren Florek about?

Making Lemonade: A Bittersweet and Brutally Honest Guide to Heartbreak, Divorce, and Starting Over focuses on resilience, reclaiming your voice, and moving beyond cycles of pain and self-betrayal into self-empowerment.

How can you stop cycles of heartbreak and suffering?

You can break the cycle by separating the inevitable pain of an event from the suffering you choose to ruminate on, viewing past behaviors as objective information rather than permanent labels.

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Inspiring women to overcome social stereotypes and share unique life experiences without fear

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of being defiantly different.

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Christopher and Heather.

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Let's talk, shall we?

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It is the lover's lament.

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The breakup that feels like Groundhog Day.

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Not if you know what I'm talking about, right?

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But if you're ready to end that cycle of heartbreak without meaning, well, let's introduce

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you to author, coach, speaker, student of the human experience and founder of New Mindset

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Foundation, Lauren Florek.

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Welcome Lauren to Virgin Beauty Bitch.

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Hi, thank you so much for having me.

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I'm absolutely so thrilled to be here.

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This is going to be so much fun.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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So Lauren, like the bittersweetness of lost love, it's a universal experience, but you

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learn to take that bitter experience and turn it into making lemonade, which is the title

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of your new book.

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I won't ask for the secret ingredients right off the top, but maybe some background on

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how writing this book became your calling.

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Yeah, well, I think it was just stories that have always been inside of me.

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And at one point last year, I just sat down and I thought, I'm just going to get it out.

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And it was just really meant to be a cathartic writing session and it turned into a chapter.

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And then it turned into two.

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And then I moved that chapter and had to fill in what was been in between it.

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And so it became now three chapters.

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And I thought, maybe this is something here.

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And I gave them to my mom and to one of my really dear friends.

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And they said, I totally relate.

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I totally get this.

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And I was like, okay, maybe it's not just the three of us then.

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And the more I wrote and the more I shared with friends and other women and friends of my

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mom and different generations, there was this through line of, yeah, I get it.

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We've all had these experiences that feel so incredibly personal, yet we can all relate

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to them universally.

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And I thought, maybe that wasn't my intention of what I do because what I do for a living is

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I talk to executives about how to repair relationships.

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But maybe this is something different that my soul has kind of come here to speak on that

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I wasn't really expecting.

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So in that way, it's a surprise to us both Christopher.

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But I mean, what's remarkable is we all suffer pain in some form.

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And a lot of, most of us will be through relationships.

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Things will end.

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However, we don't necessarily turn that into the treasures that you have found in these

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really, really hard experiences.

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What do you think is about you or happened to you that made you turn that pain into something

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worth to value?

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Well, I look at it two ways.

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I can either wallow, which I've done, and that didn't feel great, or I can decide to

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do something about it.

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And when I was a child, my parents divorced when I was really young.

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And I was raised equally by both of them.

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And very different kind of settings.

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My mom was a single parent.

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She wasn't quite making ends meet.

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My dad was on the other side of that spectrum money and a totally different lifestyle.

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So in a way, it was like I lived in two different worlds at the same time.

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And my mom, because she had such a limited amount of time to kind of teach us the lessons of

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the world, she wanted us to learn them.

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And it was almost in a way that was bitter, you know, a little salty.

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She felt like I could handle something myself.

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She would tell me, what are you going to do about it, baby girl?

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And she would make me find the answers for myself.

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And trust me at the time, what I really wanted was a life raft.

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And what she gave me was something much bigger, but I didn't realize it at the time.

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It was only after perspective and having to find these answers for myself that I realized

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what a gift she had given.

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But it sort of opened up this idea that we can choose.

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We can choose for ourselves what feels good and what doesn't feel good.

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And does it feel good to feel like the relationship changed me in a way that wasn't great?

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Does it feel good to sit in the idea that it's always somebody else's fault?

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Or does it feel good to say, gosh, this is, I see that.

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It's not my favorite part of me.

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But I can see that even if it isn't my favorite part of me, it's still very valuable.

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And it's really at the end of the day, just information.

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So if I behaved a certain way in a relationship and, you know, it contributed to the demise of

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what can I change about myself in the future to not have this same outcome?

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And when you look at it just as information and not as a label that sits with you for a

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lifetime, you can see how malleable it is.

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And you can see that the power that you have in the narrative that you speak of yourself

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and that you know of yourself.

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And when you start to understand that, you get to write your own script.

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You get to decide all of the things.

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And so it's sort of opened this little portal of how do I want this human experience to be

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And what does that mean as far as my own ownership of my behavior?

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And some of it was really hard to look at.

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But I think in that toughness, that's where, you know, that's where all of the insight

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really comes from.

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And that's where the growth is.

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It's very uncomfortable to look at yourself and see your flaws.

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And the things that are necessary to change in order for your life to change.

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So if you look at it, not as a label of who you're going to be forever and ever, and you

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just look at it as a person that you were at one point in your life, you can easily say,

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well, I'm not that anymore.

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So what am I going to be?

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What do I choose next?

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And I think that's the differentiator of whether we sit in Wallow or what are you going

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to do about it, baby girl?

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That is profound.

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That is profound.

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Thank you.

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Right, to share.

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I'm just thinking of the person who didn't have your mom and her, how she taught you to

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put perspective on life and the things happening to you in life.

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And all they know is the pain they're suffering through.

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How do they make that transition?

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How do they go to the perspective you just spoke about?

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So, I'm going to say this with the intention of love.

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And I hope that your audience receives it that way.

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But there's this wonderful quote by a man named Dr. Wayne Dwyer.

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And he speaks about pain and about suffering.

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And I'm going to really simplify it in a way that probably doesn't honor his true meaning,

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but it's just for the sake of time.

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It is that pain is inevitable.

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We will all feel pain in our lifetime, but suffering is in some ways a choice.

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And if we can separate what happened in this moment from what we choose to carry forward

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forever, that's where we decide where our suffering stops.

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And I do believe that there's deep suffering that people feel with a sense of their own

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worthiness or lack thereof where it becomes then punishment.

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And they have to kind of relive this in order to fulfill the punishment that they feel they

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deserve.

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And that's a really dark place, but it's a very human place to be.

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And if we can have awareness that that's where we are, that every day that we decide to

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ruminate on something that happened a long time ago, we're choosing to carry that suffering

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back into another day.

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And where we decide we can stop that cycle for ourself, that's the day of our reckoning.

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That's the day that we can say, I don't want to wear this, you know, all of this anymore,

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I want to be something lighter and better.

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And then that's where the change can start to happen.

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But it really happens with that awareness.

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Thank you for that.

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I think that for a lot of people who don't have that kind of support, that can really

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make a difference to hear those words and to get that perspective.

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So thank you for that.

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So I think I mentioned to you that for Heather and I, this year has been the year of the

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bitch where we have turned that into an acronym of betrayal identity, trust, change, and healing,

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a process that after speaking to hundreds of women over the years, we've seen this pattern

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go through over and over again.

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And in reading your book, no one would be hold there, it is again.

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What a human experience we're all having.

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There's a passage here on your page 15.

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There is a narrow tightrope.

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Do you remember it?

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Can you read that for us?

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Yeah, I would be honored too.

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Yeah.

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It's page 115.

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It's in chapter 8, which is, it's called, that chapter is under the right conditions,

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which really speaks to honoring our own ecology.

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So the passage is this.

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There is a narrow tightrope path women are asked to walk.

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And we're rarely told how impossible it is until we're in the middle of it, already exhausted

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from trying to stay balanced up upon it.

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Be beautiful, but have some humility.

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Be confident, but not cocky.

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Be ambitious, not ruthless.

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Be independent, but still desirable enough to be chosen.

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Be healed, but not complicated.

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And don't let your healing make anyone feel uncomfortable.

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Be honest, but don't let your honesty disrupt the status quo.

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Be strong, but for the love of God, don't let anyone feel the weight of what may do that

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way.

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We learn to edit, omit, and hide ourselves.

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Some of us edit our loudness, some of us edit our softness, some of us edit our intelligence,

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our sexuality, our grief, our hunger, our anger, our joy.

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Some of us become excellent at being palatable.

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We become good at reading rooms so we can stay safe in our smallness.

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We become fluent in other people's needs so we can speak the language of their comfort

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while putting our own on a shelf for safekeeping.

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And then one day after all of that, there's a reckoning, a painful reckoning.

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For Heather and I, we've gone through this process of betrayal.

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And most of the time betrayal comes from outside of us, but the majority of our betrayals come

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from within us.

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And what you just read there is that not an example of betraying ourselves.

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Absolutely.

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Self-a-racer.

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And I find that self-a-racer happens, you know, very often in relationships.

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And it's really hard to discern that it's happening in the moment that it's happening.

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But it happens all over the place.

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It happens in business when you realize that your bigness makes other people uncomfortable.

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And so you kind of just, you know, sand down your sharp edges and become a much easier

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pill to swallow for everyone else's comfort.

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And at some point that betrayal, it becomes a real part of your experience almost to the

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point where you can have this wake-up moment of, well, who am I?

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Now, and that question is a really tough one for a lot of people to answer, who am I?

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Especially without our labels, mom, boss, manager, sister, cousin, brother, you ask somebody

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who they are.

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I'm a great friend.

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Well, without that friendship, who are you?

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Right?

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And I think that is where you can really lose grip of who you are and become betrayed in

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whatever that relationship is or whatever that mindset is for yourself and limit yourself

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in such a way that you don't have the permission to be you any longer.

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And what a sad place.

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What a horrible place to be.

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And we've all been there.

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You know, there's no shame in that.

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We've all felt that way.

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And you know in the moment, you know, sometimes you have those big moments where you're like,

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oh, I should have spoke up.

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I should have said, I should have done, you know, I should have been vulnerable or courageous

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or brave, but I wasn't.

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And it's part of the human experience.

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But it's one of those that needs a little closer look.

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So woman listening to you right now was thinking, oh, wow, she's really got it together.

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She's stuck on point, man.

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She's always been like that.

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Wrong.

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You should have met me in my 20s.

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I was a mess.

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I mean, it took a lot of, it took a lot of being in the gutter for me to get there, you know,

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and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

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You know, I wouldn't trade any of the hard stuff for the world because even though it didn't

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feel great in the moment of going through the tough things and the losses, I came out of it

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and you can too.

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It's very doable, very doable.

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It's just really about honoring, you know, what it is that you need for your own growth.

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Sometimes it means cutting people off that are, you know, absorbing too much of your energy

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and time.

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to your heart and who you are as a person and saying, "This doesn't really align with me

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anymore."

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And it's never too late to do that.

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You know, we're never too big or too small to take inventory and say, "It doesn't belong

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or I need a little more of that."

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You know, that's a responsibility that we have as human beings, not just to ourselves

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but to each other, to the consciousness that we're all contributing to.

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You know, we owe it to ourselves to do better and be better.

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We really do.

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Yeah, we talk a lot about identity and it seems like I am who I am.

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What do you mean?

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Right?

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However, the knowing of who you are as opposed to what you're supposed to be performing in

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order for you to be loved, accepted, whatever it might be, sometimes it's hard to

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differentiate those things from actually who you are and taking the time, effort and pain

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as you've learned to actually use that to find out who you are and not run from it.

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Yeah, they will.

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They will.

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And it's really hard to identify.

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I think you have to be somewhat aware of your physical creature.

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feel it.

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You know, you, I often use the example of like when you feel it in your heart space, it generally

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means that something that happened outside of you does not align with how you see yourself

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as a person.

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So let's say that there's like a misunderstanding and somebody sees you and maybe judges you

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unfairly.

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Generally, there's this ache in the chest where it's like, oh, I just wish that they had

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seen me differently.

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And I think that that is a call to say there's a, there's a value of alignment with how you

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see yourself and how they see you and you, you can try.

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I think it's a really encouraged to try to make those two things aligned and connect.

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So it's the responsibility to then to say, I think you actually misunderstood me there.

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This is my intention.

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This is what I mean.

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But we have to have awareness.

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It's landing here.

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So this is probably what it means.

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If it lands in your gut, it might mean something different.

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It might mean that you feel that your, your tribe is not connected to you or that you have

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some kind of, you know, very instinctual human, like disconnection from, from, from people.

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You know, so it depends on where it lands in your body.

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But having that awareness in the first place is, you know, it's, there's a, there's a beautiful

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design to us where something happens and it affects us in our physical creature and our

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physical being.

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And we don't often pay attention to that.

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And so it's sort of an afterthought.

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People say like, oh, this happened and my gosh, my, I just, my stomach started hurting.

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But they don't really piece together.

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Why that's happening?

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What neurons in our stomach are telling our brain that there's a disconnection here.

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to your body.

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Your body will show you and tell you where the, the disconnections exist based on what

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feels good for you and what does not feel good for you.

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So that's a good place to start.

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But first you have to have that connection to self and you have a, you have a chapter

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that I thought was very telling in the differentiation of who we actually are and what we have been conditioned

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to believe about ourselves.

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And that was in chapter nine, on page 136.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Most of us are.

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Yeah, do you want me to go ahead and ask for a question?

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Yeah, I'm going to be honest.

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Most of us are not choosing from a blank slate.

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We're choosing from inside our own conditioning.

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We're choosing from inside our unique family systems, culture, religion, financial situations.

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We're choosing from a place of motherhood inside our personal traumas and choices.

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We choose from inside the long history being of being rewarded for being agreeable and

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ashamed for wanting more.

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Ouch, that left line.

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That is a punch in the gut if there is, if you really listen to it and take it to heart

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and evaluate your surroundings, evaluate your past and who you believe you are.

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Are you these things that have been plugged into you?

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And do you actually do you know what's beneath all of that?

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Right.

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Right.

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Do you have you really taken inventory of what's underneath that, where it came from and

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if it even belongs anymore in the first place?

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And that last line of being ashamed for wanting more, that's a tough one because there's so

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many different places where that can show up.

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You can want more in your job and you can be a bitch.

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You can be somebody who's willing to do whatever it takes to get there and that can be perceived

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as bitchiness or something like that and you can want more in a relationship and feel

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obligated to stay because there's nothing really truly wrong.

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It just doesn't feel enough.

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And so you can get stuck in the cycle of being stuck there because I don't have a good

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enough reason to leave but I know this isn't exactly what I want.

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And if I leave and somebody asks, you know what happened and I said, we just grew apart

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there's a hundred more questions that come out after that of like, are you nuts?

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Like, you know, can you just work through it?

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And so you get this shame for feeling like what you have is not enough for you and that

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you have to justify it in some reason and I'm here to say you don't.

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You don't owe anybody an explanation.

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You don't.

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Let me ask you then.

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So you coach men and women.

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Thank you.

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Is there a difference in what it is you just spoke about and how men approach that deficit

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as opposed to how women approach that deficit?

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No.

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I do.

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Really?

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So I don't think so.

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I think women are much more tender in receiving the information and men are generally more

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logical in receiving the information like it logically makes sense so that they can create

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a plan forward.

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But the information always resonates because it's something very relatable.

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I don't think men have the same social pressures of behaving one way or another way.

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So for example, you know, in business, men are padded on the back for being aggressive.

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Women are ashamed for it.

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And so in that way, yes, the receiving that information is different, but feeling the

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feeling of wanting more and going for it is pretty universal, regardless of gender.

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I mean, we are all human.

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After all, we will absorb and work with that information the same way because we are

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human.

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However, like you said, there are social conditionings that separate us.

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Absolutely.

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So bring different levels of pressure, stress and lack of actually believing in yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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To the equation.

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Right.

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So when I say, is there a difference between men and women?

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I'm mostly talking about those kinds of influences and then how women respond.

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If I'm a man and I'm aggressive and I'm padded on the back and if I'm a woman, I'm called

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a bitch.

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I'm going to be.

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Yes.

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The experience is different.

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The experience and that is very different.

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The desire and the same, but the experience is very different.

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So of course, as a woman, you have to have more peripherals in those kinds of situations.

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You have to understand that people are going to see things differently because that is

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the conditioning that we have had and that is what is accepted socially.

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And so as a woman, you do have to, let's say in the example of being an aggressive business

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person, you have to develop this thick skin.

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And I think that thick skin is where the word bitch comes in.

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So I'm obeying the social conditioning and yet I am being ashamed for it.

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It's a no-win situation for me.

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So at some point, I think the challenge is like, what would win for you?

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Is it taking in the idea that you're a bitch and sitting with it and owning it and being

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that and having that become part of your identity or is it deciding that what that word means

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to you is something that different than what it was given intentionally.

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And that's the difference between pain and suffering.

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You see what I mean?

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Great.

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Full circle.

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I love it when it comes to full circle.

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I love it when it comes to full circle.

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That is brilliant.

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That is absolutely brilliant.

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So some of your, what is, can give us a little bit more about new mindset foundation?

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Yeah.

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So, new mindset foundation is my coaching organization.

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I have a few different businesses.

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I have a publishing business, so I love that.

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I'm an author.

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I have my hands in a lot of different places because I'm a multifaceted human being and

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I love different things.

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But that is the real thought leader part of my business.

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And so I started coaching just executives.

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I really wanted to target women in particular.

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But when you're first starting out, you take what you can.

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And I found actually that I just love it.

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I love the conversations.

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Most of the conversations I have are repair conversations.

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I speak with a lot of founders and CEOs about, you know, not just scaling their business,

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but the culture they're developing in the business, how they're being received as a leader.

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How would they want their legacy to look?

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And in most of the conversations, I'd say 80%, we always find a place where repair

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can be made, whether with co-founders or, you know, other sea sweets that are, you know,

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that there's always a little residue and, you know, they come up butting heads against

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each other.

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And to me, that's where the fascinating work is.

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I love kind of untangling the issues that have created residue in relationships because

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it's always about a trigger and a trigger is always about something inside of yourself

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that you haven't figured out just quite yet.

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And so when we can reframe things and look at it as personal ownership and autonomy, we

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can make huge headway on letting go of some of the baggage we're carrying with us.

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And that is, that is fun stuff.

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That is making lemonade.

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And that is making lemonade.

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Exactly.

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So give us a full title of the book and yeah, maybe a little bit of space as to why

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everyone should be reading this.

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Yeah, okay.

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So it's making lemonade, a bittersweet and brutally honest guy to heartbreak, divorce,

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and starting over.

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It's a mouthful.

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If you go on to Amazon, just do like making lemonade and then my name, Lauren Florek,

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it'll pop right up.

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But the spice of it is, oh my goodness.

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Okay.

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It gets a little unhinged in there.

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Yeah.

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There's parts that I'm like, maybe I should have, you know, consulted a lawyer.

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But, you know what, it's my truth.

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And if I am walking through this world, I'm going to do it honestly.

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So that's what it is.

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But it's the real, the real meat and potatoes of what happened in a couple of divorces and

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a few failed relationships that I've gone through.

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And what I uncovered about myself in that journey and a lot of it is about my own accountability.

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And even though there are tragic situations within it, there were red flags that I think

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in one chapter I say, I kind of tilted it sideways and it was, you know, a pretty shade

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of orange, you know, that kind of thing.

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Like I just let it go.

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And I didn't see it because I wasn't focused on me.

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I was focused on being the right person for them.

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And in that same, you know, through line of self-arraysure, that's where I found myself

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repeating the same, you know, different face, different man, same Lauren, you know, same

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problem.

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And so it wasn't until I went, oh, this is a me thing that I went, okay, so I have control

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over it then.

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I don't just have a bad picker.

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I don't just have poor experiences in relationship.

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I have actually some ownership over how my relationship should look and what I want them

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to be in the future.

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So that's a little bit of a spice.

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It's amazing how many traps we set for ourselves before we actually learn.

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Strictly.

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And you know, I always say, if it takes me one more trip around that revolving door, I'm

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going to take it every time.

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You know, there's no shame in learning less than one more time just so you really get it.

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And I had to do that a lot.

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So I, you know, I empathize and I have compassion for people who have done it because it's

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an easy thing to do.

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It's just when you realize that that's what you're doing, you got to get out of the, you

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got to get out of the trap door.

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Groundhog day.

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(laughs)

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Doing the same thing over and over and over again.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And wanting it to turn out differently.

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Yeah.

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And ultimately, is that the story you want to keep telling or do you want a better story?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Lauren, you are amazing.

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Oh, thank you.

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I've had so much fun.

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I just adore you.

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(laughs)

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Yeah.

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I thank you for writing your book for being so vulnerable and honest and open.

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It is a fun read.

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Thank you.

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Because it's your heart.

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Yeah.

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It really is your heart.

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And I really appreciate you putting that on a page for me to learn from.

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Well, thank you.

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And for others to do the same.

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Thank you for that.

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Yeah, you're so welcome.

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My pleasure, absolutely.

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Before we go, give us a name in that book again and where to get it.

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Yeah.

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So I'm going to give you a short version and I'm going to tell you how to get it.

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So it's Making Lemonade by Lauren Florek.

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You can see it on, you can catch it on Amazon.

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You can also find it on my website.

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It'll link right to it.

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My website is LaurenOnLife.com.

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And you can find me, that's my social handle as well.

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You can find me on social that way.

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LinkedIn, my full name, but I would be honored and privileged and absolutely blast if you

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and your readers enjoy it.

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That would be my life's work, you know.

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I recommend it 12 out of 10.

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Oh, thank you.

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Oh, thank you.

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So kind.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for doing this.

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Thank you for giving the time to share what it is that you've learned over these years.

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I really appreciate you.

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My pleasure.

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Author | Coach | Speaker | Founder

I'm an executive coach who helps leaders through conversations they've been avoiding: the review nobody wants to give, the overdue apology, the boundary that should have been set two years ago. I've worked with executives, founders, and professionals in fields where getting a conversation wrong has real consequences.

Then there's the conversation I avoided for years, which was the one I needed to have with myself.

I've been divorced twice. After the second one ended, I went straight into a relationship that failed too, and the math got hard to ignore. The one common denominator was me. Not as a verdict, or as blame. Just the beginning of an actual question: what was I bringing to these relationships, and what was I giving away in them?

Answering it took years, which is the part nobody wants to hear. The pain of each failure didn't teach me anything on its own. Suffering is not a curriculum. What it did was hand me material, and then I had to sit down and decide what it all meant, on purpose, long after it stopped hurting. What I know now is where my boundaries were loose, where I let myself down, where I lost myself entirely, and what is no longer up for negotiation.

That's the distance my debut book, "Making Lemonade: A bitter, sweet, and brutally honest guide to heartbreak, divorce, and starting over.” My writing refuses the usual comforts; there’s no blaming the ex, no silver lining, no yoga retreats, journaling, or affirmations. It’s telling yourself the truth, letting it hurt, and then letting … Read More